Punishment for all gang members if one carries out a violent crime...

[DJ OD]

BORIS!!!






A hardline US-style crackdown, under which every gang member will face punishment if one of their ranks commits a violent offence, was announced today by Boris Johnson in a bid to improve public safety.

Under the “Shield” scheme, known members will be told that each will suffer a civil or criminal sanction if any of their gang carries out an assault, stabbing or other serious crime.
The penalties will range from recall to prison, gang injunctions banning them from parts of the capital or mixing with their associates, mandatory employment training courses or ejection from social housing.
The offender who triggers action will be fast-tracked through the criminal justice system for swift sentencing.
Announcing the scheme, the Mayor said: “It is time we gave these gang members a clear ultimatum — the police know who you are and if anyone in the gang steps out of line then every member will face consequences.
“There is absolutely no place for violence in our city. Through Shield, we are redoubling our efforts to stamp out gang crime once and for all.”
Stephen Greenhalgh, the deputy mayor for policing and crime, said: “The police have made huge progress in tackling gangs and youth crime is down, but a minority continue to cause significant harm. Evidence shows that this ‘one rule for all’ approach cuts violence.”
The tough purge on gang members is modelled on “Group Violence Intervention” methods used in several US cities, including Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles, and will be piloted in three boroughs: Lambeth, Westminster and Haringey, each of which is affected by significant gang violence.
Any gang member who wants to reform will be offered assistance to help them escape their lifestyle, including the provision of “safe houses”.
Commander Neil Basu, the head of the Met’s Gangs and Organised Crime Command, said: “We will do everything we can within the criminal and civil law to bring all members of any targeted gang to justice. Gang members in London will know that if they commit crime there are consequences. But we will also provide a meaningful alternative for those who want to turn their lives around and exit a gang.”
Gangs are responsible for 40 per cent of shootings and 17 per cent of violent crime in London and Scotland Yard data also shows that there are 186 recognised gangs with 3,600 members.
Under the £200,000 scheme, which will be piloted for 12 months and expanded if successful, police and community leaders will “call in” members to warn them of the new approach.

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Gonna enjoy seeing how this pans out!



DJ OD

[Bald Bouncer]

Sure that won't get abused to the maximum by police if introduced

[DJ OD]

Of course it wont. Not in the slightest...


DJ OD

[GTI]

They must have some pretty clever Lawyers because collective punishment contravenes the Fourth Geneva Convention, which Britain is obviously a signatory to.

[Over Carl]

Don't need clever lawyers if you have utter contempt for the law and can rewrite it to suit your needs and can ensure the law will never be applied against you.

This case http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_S...s,_ex_p_Reilly made big news when the law was fairly applied in the initial trial.

Then we all heard the govt retrospectively changed the relevant legislation and things went quiet.

Since then it has been determined the retrospective change is not valid accordibg to EU regs, but the government will make sure their appeal is successful.

[Geko]

Is Eton a gang? Maybe we can lock away all the self serving pigs that sit in the houses of parliament.

[BigBrand]

Pretty sure something like this happened a fair few years back in Liverpool.

A known gang member had either murdered and attempted to murder someone, and whilst another gang member did not touch the blade or intervene, they were put on trial for murder as an associate.

Can't remember how it ended up.

Shit story really.

[GTI]

Is Eton a gang? Maybe we can lock away all the self serving pigs that sit in the houses of parliament.

[darkstar]

Pretty sure something like this happened a fair few years back in Liverpool.

A known gang member had either murdered and attempted to murder someone, and whilst another gang member did not touch the blade or intervene, they were put on trial for murder as an associate.

Can't remember how it ended up.

Shit story really.

the law is called joint enterprise .. Say your mate says he is going to kill Jonny when he sees him ..he goes off and you think nothing of it .. He goes off and kills him.. Your getting done for murder even if you was no where near .. The reason your getting done is you knew he was going to do it but you never tried to stop it

joint enterprise is is a law not many understand but it has loads of ramifications

[Fear345]

So in theory everyone who listened to Gary Glitter back in the 70's and was in "His Gang" are fucked?

[Zoots]

Everyone who was in Gary's Gang probably was fucked...

[TAR]

Or now they are buggered!!

[Gonch]

Does Rolfs cartoon club count as a gang?

[Rhinoz]

Does Rolfs cartoon club count as a gang?

Only if you were in it

[emoji6]

[Gonch]

Only if you were in it

[emoji6]

Couldn't get in �� and Jim never fixed it for me �� to be fair I was an ugly kid��

[crazyadi]

surely this is only relevant where gang members are together, if bob is in bed how can he possibly be charged with anything? Assuming its meant for those present when a crime is commited then tough, if you want to hang around with scroates who have no regard for the law or other people you should be punished.
It seems to me its just about reducing the burden on the crown to prove a case of accessory which can only be a good thing considering the state of our streets these days!

[Over Carl]

Just thought, they had better make sure to put a specific exclusion for the police otherwise they may find a new problem on their hands.

[4me2]

This cunt belongs to Britain's biggest organised crime gang of MPs.

By his logic and reasoning they should all be behind bar for expenses fraud at the very least.
Personally I'd propose a firing squad to rid society of them.

[blacksheep]

the law is called joint enterprise .. Say your mate says he is going to kill Jonny when he sees him ..he goes off and you think nothing of it .. He goes off and kills him.. Your getting done for murder even if you was no where near .. The reason your getting done is you knew he was going to do it but you never tried to stop it

joint enterprise is is a law not many understand but it has loads of ramifications

yup, one of raoul moats mates got done for driving him or giving him a car