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    Hello,

    I am working with a community center currently and they have an unrestricted internet access. IT works fine BUT we are worried about misuse.
    I am looking for a linux/windows solution which I can run on a HP Microserver. It needs to be a cheap!

    I have tried:

    IP Fire - cant seem to get any data through proxy
    Untangle - seems reasonable but the cost of licensing an issue
    Zentyal - seems the most positive but not sure of filter management on traffic.

    I ideally need a linux for cost it needs a web frontend for my colleague to manage and he is not IT literate per say!

    Has anyone done this kind of project before and can offer advise I would be very grateful.
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    I would use Smoothwall mate.
    There is a free OpenSource version called [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] which I have used before.
    We use the Corporate (paid for version) at work, and this adds extra features not available in the Express version.
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    Default Re: Community Centre Proxy

    If you want to manually block/allow you can use a second hand Draytek router which has filters to block individual websites, keywords, types of traffic or restricting extensions that can be downloaded. DD-WRT has similar functionality too.

    Smoothwall sounds interesting, will have t give it a go when I get a sec. I know Overcarl loves Untangle so he may be able to help you there.

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    tombott quick question

    got 2 VM's
    Smoothwall on one with 2 NICs set as bridged with all all traffic
    One DHCP to my router
    One IP 192.168.100.100

    second VM
    Win 7
    IP static as 192.168.100.1
    DG: 192.168.100.100
    DNS 192.168.100.100

    can ping 192.168.100.100 from win PC
    but cannot connect to [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (web console on smoothwall)

    what am i missing???

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    I give a +1 for smoothwall. I look after three customers that use SmoothWall and it is pretty good. VERY fast and flexible. I've maxed out a gbit interface on one of the servers doing a single download. Compared to BlueCoats which are REALLY expensive the performance is mental and there is a well supported free version and a good community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilcritc View Post
    tombott quick question

    got 2 VM's
    Smoothwall on one with 2 NICs set as bridged with all all traffic
    One DHCP to my router
    One IP 192.168.100.100

    second VM
    Win 7
    IP static as 192.168.100.1
    DG: 192.168.100.100
    DNS 192.168.100.100

    can ping 192.168.100.100 from win PC
    but cannot connect to [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (web console on smoothwall)

    what am i missing???

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    Try port [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilBoB View Post
    Try port [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] instead.
    +1 for that!
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    Hi,

    Still no joy on either port number.
    Couple of questions
    Currentl LAN car on the smoothwall has no DG and DNS set to router
    Windows machine does it need proxy server enabling and what port does it use?

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    sorted thanks for your advice going to hae a play with filtering, can you recommend any additions for smoothwall?
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilcritc View Post
    sorted thanks for your advice going to hae a play with filtering, can you recommend any additions for smoothwall?
    I'm afraid there is a bit of a difference between the commercial and free versions. What sort of things are you looking to do?
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    tbh its reporting mainly but the free version looks ok for what we require
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    I would advise to do some real life testing once you think you've got it sorted.

    I remember setting up a free untangle box then I requested permission from the boss to conduct one test in his presence - just to go to google and type porn then click each of the sites on the first 5 pages to see what happened. The free version blocked most of the big names - youporn, xvideos, etc. but the further we went through google's search results, the more likely we would be to go straight to the site.

    My suspicion is these kind of products have a free version to entice poor IT workers who think they can implement a solution with the lack of resources available. Problem is by the time you've done this you find out the free protection is useless. It's ok if you want to reduce the amount of undesireable content being viewed, but totally useless to actually stop undesireable content from being viewed. However due to the partial success, you may have been reporting how you are near a solution.

    This is when the IT worker who has been working his arse off goes embarrassed with cap in hand to boss to ask for money for the license to finsh the project off.

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    I am working with smooth wall express and as you say have had success but testing is yet to commence I am sure as a deterrent it will be useful
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    In my first round of testing 10 pages of google porn has been blocked
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    Quote Originally Posted by Over carl View Post
    I would advise to do some real life testing once you think you've got it sorted.

    I remember setting up a free untangle box then I requested permission from the boss to conduct one test in his presence - just to go to google and type porn then click each of the sites on the first 5 pages to see what happened. The free version blocked most of the big names - youporn, xvideos, etc. but the further we went through google's search results, the more likely we would be to go straight to the site.

    My suspicion is these kind of products have a free version to entice poor IT workers who think they can implement a solution with the lack of resources available. Problem is by the time you've done this you find out the free protection is useless. It's ok if you want to reduce the amount of undesireable content being viewed, but totally useless to actually stop undesireable content from being viewed. However due to the partial success, you may have been reporting how you are near a solution.

    This is when the IT worker who has been working his arse off goes embarrassed with cap in hand to boss to ask for money for the license to finsh the project off.
    I hear what you are saying, but that's not really the way Smoothwall works (as a company).
    It started out as free, then the Corporate version came later. The only reason as a company that we went Corporate was for the support of multiple external IP's, other than that the Express (free) version did everything we could ask for.
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    Thanks tombot I appreciate your time and information
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    The commercial version isn't that expensive to be honest and they are quite flexible. Their support has always been top notch and they are always willing to give free advice on stuff. Much better support than other products I've used in the past. Only thing is they use Teamviewer for remote support which probably isn't an issue for you but was a nightmare for me as my company policy restricts what can be installed and blocks remote access tools to the internet.
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    Check out Sophos UTM too:
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilcritc View Post
    In my first round of testing 10 pages of google porn has been blocked
    So only 387 pages left, damn

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    What blacklists would you recommend (tombott)
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