Close

Results 1 to 13 of 13
  1. #1
    DF PwNagE GTI's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Switzerland
    Posts
    7,718
    Thanks
    1,579
    Thanked:        2,241
    Karma Level
    1181

    scam Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    As someone who works in the most highly regulated industry on earth (Pharma) I am very pleased that the myth of homoeopathy has been well and truly debunked.
    Time to round up all the charlatans and close them down before they're allowed do any more harm to patients (harm as in peddling useless sugar pills)


    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    Wednesday 11 March 2015 05.25 GMT

    Report by top medical research body says ‘people who choose homeopathy may put their health at risk if they reject or delay treatments’



    Australia’s National Health and Medical Research Council hopes report will discourage private health insurers from offering rebates on homeopathic treatments. Photograph: Alix/Phanie/Rex Features Photograph: Alix / Phanie / Rex Features/Alix / Phanie / Rex Features

    Homeopathy is not effective for treating any health condition, Australia’s top body for medical research has concluded, after undertaking an extensive review of existing studies.

    Homeopaths believe that illness-causing substances can, in minute doses, treat people who are unwell.
    By diluting these substances in water or alcohol, homeopaths claim the resulting mixture retains a “memory” of the original substance that triggers a healing response in the body.
    These claims have been widely disproven by multiple studies, but the NationalHealth and Medical Research Council (NHMRC) has for the first time thoroughly reviewed 225 research papers on homeopathy to come up with its position statement, released on Wednesday.
    “Based on the assessment of the evidence of effectiveness of homeopathy, NHMRC concludes that there are no health conditions for which there is reliable evidence that homeopathy is effective,” the report concluded.
    “People who choose homeopathy may put their health at risk if they reject or delay treatments for which there is good evidence for safety and effectiveness.”
    An independent company also reviewed the studies and appraised the evidence to prevent bias.
    Chair of the NHMRC Homeopathy Working Committee, Professor Paul Glasziou, said he hoped the findings would lead private health insurers to stop offering rebates on homeopathic treatments, and force pharmacists to reconsider stocking them.
    “There will be a tail of people who won’t respond to this report, and who will say it’s all a conspiracy of the establishment,” Glasziou said.
    “But we hope there will be a lot of reasonable people out there who will reconsider selling, using or subsiding these substances.”
    While some studies reported homeopathy was effective, the quality of those studies was poor and suffered serious flaws in their design, and did not have enough participants to support the idea that homeopathy worked any better than a sugar pill, the report found.
    In making its findings the NHMRC also analysed 57 systematic reviews, a high-quality type of study that assesses all existing, quality research on a particular topic and synthesises it to make a number of strong, overall findings.
    Glasziou said homeopathy use declined in the UK following a House of Commons report released in 2010 which found the treatments were ineffective, and that he hoped the NHMRC report would have a similar effect in Australia.

    Dr Ken Harvey, a medicinal drug policy expert and health consumer advocate, said private colleges were charging thousands of dollars for courses in homeopathy, and he hoped students would reconsider taking them.
    The government’s Tertiary Education Quality Standards Agency (TEQSA) should stop accrediting homeopathic courses, he said, while the private health insurance rebate should be not be offered on any policies covering homeopathy and other unproven treatments.
    “I have no problems with private colleges wanting to run courses on crystal-ball gazing, iridology and homeopathy, and if people are crazy enough to pay for it, it’s their decision,” Harvey said.
    “But if those courses are approved by a commonwealth body, that’s a different story and a real problem.”
    Approved courses are reviewed by TESQA every seven years, with its own guidelines stating the content of a course should be “drawn from a substantial, coherent and current body of knowledge and scholarship in one or more academic disciplines and includes the study of relevant theoretical frameworks and research findings”.
    A TESQA spokesperson said independent experts were used to assess whether or not a course complied with its standards. He said homeopathy courses already accredited would not be re-evaluated in light of the NHMRC’s findings, and would only be reviewed when their accreditation was next due for renewal.
    In a statement responding to the NHMRC report, the Australian Homeopathic Association (AHA) claimed around a million Australians used homeopathy.
    However, the NHMRC states there are no reliable estimates of Australians’ current use of homeopathic medicines, though a 2009 World Health Organisation review found Australians spent an estimated $9.59m on the industry annually.

    “The Australian Homeopathic Association recommend to the NHMRC that it take a more comprehensive approach to the analysis of homeopathy’s efficacy, and consider a large-scale economic evaluation of the benefits of a more integrated system and one which respects and advocates patient choice in healthcare provision,” the AHA said.

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

    3 Thanks given to GTI

    cyprus (12th March 2015), elephantsoup (12th March 2015), Over Carl (12th March 2015) 


  2. #2
    DF PwNagE Geko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    5,971
    Thanks
    1,175
    Thanked:        1,281
    Karma Level
    601

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    In other news.... Dried Tiger Balls do not cure Cancer.

    Thanks to Geko

    grrrd (11th March 2015) 


  3. #3
    DF Jedi plug1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    glesga
    Posts
    1,965
    Thanks
    383
    Thanked:        245
    Karma Level
    364

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    No shit Sherlock .. Like sniffing knickers cures piles !

  4. #4
    DF Jedi plug1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    glesga
    Posts
    1,965
    Thanks
    383
    Thanked:        245
    Karma Level
    364

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    Hi geko you still on on your high hoss ?

  5. #5
    DF PwNagE GTI's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Switzerland
    Posts
    7,718
    Thanks
    1,579
    Thanked:        2,241
    Karma Level
    1181

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Geko View Post
    In other news.... Dried Tiger Balls do not cure Cancer.
    You say that and yet it is still practiced by [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]alongside conventional medicine, all funded through the NHS. Time to stop this wooly nonsense and get real.

    Thanks to GTI

    Geko (12th March 2015) 


  6. #6
    DF Jedi plug1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    glesga
    Posts
    1,965
    Thanks
    383
    Thanked:        245
    Karma Level
    364

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    CBD mate , and ant acid tabs .. Google it !

  7. #7
    DF Jedi plug1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Location
    glesga
    Posts
    1,965
    Thanks
    383
    Thanked:        245
    Karma Level
    364

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    If anybody is interested ill post a good article on repurposing drugs . off label .
    and CBD it rats . If it's good for rats then ld50 means shit..

  8. #8
    DF Super Moderator piggzy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    3,979
    Thanks
    3,522
    Thanked:        1,735
    Karma Level
    356

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    Yeah cos all the big Pharma's are so on the level and not corrupt. :-)

  9. #9
    DF PwNagE GTI's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Switzerland
    Posts
    7,718
    Thanks
    1,579
    Thanked:        2,241
    Karma Level
    1181

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    Quote Originally Posted by piggzy View Post
    Yeah cos all the big Pharma's are so on the level and not corrupt. :-)
    Sorry for the delay in replying, I was playing Golf.

    Thanks to GTI

    plug1 (12th March 2015) 


  10. #10
    DF VIP Member
    Mule's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    9,097
    Thanks
    454
    Thanked:        976
    Karma Level
    1062

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
    Open your heart. Die.

    3 Thanks given to Mule

    Ashley (12th March 2015), Ganty (12th March 2015), GTI (12th March 2015) 


  11. #11
    DF PwNagE Geko's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Earth
    Posts
    5,971
    Thanks
    1,175
    Thanked:        1,281
    Karma Level
    601

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    Quote Originally Posted by plug1 View Post
    Hi geko you still on on your high hoss ?

    if by high horse, you mean behaving like an adult. Then, yes. I'm afraid so. I haven't regressed to the 13 year old me and started prank calling someone who exploited the lack of trust in my relationship.


    Did I touch a nerve previously?

  12. #12
    DF Jedi blacksheep's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Manchester
    Posts
    3,877
    Thanks
    87
    Thanked:        265
    Karma Level
    514

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    Who the fuck is funding these studies - it's either the manufacturers (who would try keep this quiet) or some nutter wanting to waste money

  13. #13
    DF VIP Member
    Mule's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Surrey
    Posts
    9,097
    Thanks
    454
    Thanked:        976
    Karma Level
    1062

    Default Re: Homeopathy not effective for treating any condition, Australian report finds

    Quote Originally Posted by blacksheep View Post
    Who the fuck is funding these studies - it's either the manufacturers (who would try keep this quiet) or some nutter wanting to waste money
    Governments. They have to pay for the shit if they offer it and the consequences when people do it themselves.
    Open your heart. Die.

Similar Threads

  1. [World News] Report: Treating Drug Addicts Costs £3.6bn
    By 4me2 in forum News & Current Affairs
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 19th June 2011, 04:53 PM
  2. Homeopathy - How does it work?
    By Mule in forum The Clinic
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 28th May 2010, 08:09 PM

Social Networking Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •