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    Default The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    So what are people thought on the 2 directions the Alien franchise is heading.

    Loved all the Original Alien films then didn't know what I felt about prometheus.

    Now it is splitting with Ridley scott in the process of making Alien : Paradise Lost (Prometheus 2)

    With a different director (Neill Bloomkamp) starting on Alien 5, which apparently carries on from Aliens , kind of ignoring Alien 3 & Resurrection (not sure how this will happen)

    What are people thoughts on this and what would you like to see happen. I think I would like to see Alien 5 but not sure about how he plans to do it?!?!?

    Alien: Paradise Lost (Ridley)
    http://screenrant.com/alien-paradise...-filming-plot/


    Alien 5 (Bloomkamp) - fuck all info on this one.
    http://screenrant.com/tag/alien-5/


    Don't ruin my love for this franchise!

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    I'm a big fan of the first 2 Alien films and refuse to acknowledge the existence of any of the films made after 1986. They fucked them all up big time with ridiculous story lines, huge budgets and too much CGI. All that's needed is lots of tension and scary bits in the first half and and a shed load of colonial marines with flame throwers and M41A pulse rifles killing the evil little fuckers in the second half.
    Its a simple equation Xenomorphs+Guns+Grimy run down environment = Good. Charlize Theron+Monks with sticks+Shiny white space ships = Shit.

    I don't hold out much hope for either of the new films. The studios will chuck to much money into them, and the accountants will demand big names or old faces to bring in the punters.

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    I'm pretty much with MHP on this. I don't mind Alien 3 as a stand alone film but there was no way Newt & Hicks should have been killed off before the opening credits. I'd be interested to see Blomkamp do a 'retcon' though. I remember reading a version of the Alien 3 script a few years ago in which Hicks and a rebuilt Bishop went hunting aliens on a space station after sending Ripley and Newt back to Earth. It was pretty good.

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Quote Originally Posted by TJB View Post
    I'm pretty much with MHP on this. I don't mind Alien 3 as a stand alone film but there was no way Newt & Hicks should have been killed off before the opening credits. I'd be interested to see Blomkamp do a 'retcon' though. I remember reading a version of the Alien 3 script a few years ago in which Hicks and a rebuilt Bishop went hunting aliens on a space station after sending Ripley and Newt back to Earth. It was pretty good.
    Pretty sure I read that script - in fact it may have been in the original graphic novel that happened. Wasn't that the story where Predators are on Earth too?
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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    As a fan of the comic book series years ago I think they fuxked up after aliens with alien 3 as well. I'm liking the ideas behind both films though as both could carry on the canon from the comics.


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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Hasn't Alien 5 been put on the back burner for now?

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Quote Originally Posted by CominAtcha View Post
    Hasn't Alien 5 been put on the back burner for now?
    Apparently the director has offered to delay it a bit to allow Ridley offering to be released in a separate sort of time frame...

    Blomkamp was the director of district 9 which I thought was very well done , so I think he could make a good Alien film.

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    I would love to see the Alien movies based on the novels written by Steve Perry covering the story of Wilks and Billie (the two characters are based on Hicks and Newt).

    DJ Overdose, I guess the novels are based on the comics too?

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Nah different Cyprus mate. Comics followed on from aliens with earthwar whereby when ripley gets back aliens have invaded.


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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilBoB View Post
    Pretty sure I read that script - in fact it may have been in the original graphic novel that happened. Wasn't that the story where Predators are on Earth too?
    The one I read took place on a sort of quarantine zone / space station just off Earth. Here you go....

    http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_III_(William_Gibson)

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Quote Originally Posted by TJB View Post
    The one I read took place on a sort of quarantine zone / space station just off Earth. Here you go....

    http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_III_(William_Gibson)

    Think I would have preferred that to the Alien 3 that was made.

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Alien 3 fell victim to 'too many cooks spoil the broth'. The story line was rewritten several times during the filming. The original script had the prison planet being made out of wood... Allegedly Sigourney Weaver also got involved with the script, demanding that no guns be used. A major part of Aliens storyline was about keeping Hicks and Newt alive. Killing then in the beginning of Alien3 stuck two fingers up to the previous film and insulted the audiences.

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    I think we should set our expectations for alien 5 to be a cgi action flick with limited storyline. I don't think an alien horror will appeal to the mass market. Plus the criticism of the later alien film (and predator) would push the producers further away from the first 2 films. The real problem is that the first 2 films were that damn good that any remake or follow on will be compared and fall short. If they make an all out alien v marine cgi kill fest, then I would got and see it!!
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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Shotgunjim View Post
    If they make an all out alien v marine cgi kill fest, then I would go and see it!!
    As long as the banter and the one liners between the marines are as good as this then I agree.

    https://youtu.be/JYkxCzBszOQ

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Hudson was one of my favourites.

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Quote Originally Posted by MHP View Post
    As long as the banter and the one liners between the marines are as good as this then I agree.

    https://youtu.be/JYkxCzBszOQ
    It still amazes me that that's the same bird who plays the foster Mum in T2.

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    Default Re: The new Films in the Alien Franchise.. Alien 5 or Prometheus 2

    Quote Originally Posted by CominAtcha View Post
    It still amazes me that that's the same bird who plays the foster Mum in T2.
    Fuck me I only just realised that. Watched T2 a week ago and never clocked it.

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